Comments on: Smartest Linux Move Ever? And Why Ubuntu will Fail http://www.devside.net/blog/linux-microsoft Linux, Windows, MacOS? Who cares. Just give me something that works! Thu, 7 Aug 2008 21:29:17 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: none http://www.devside.net/blog/linux-microsoft#comment-1524 none Tue, 03 Jul 2007 22:35:41 +0000 http://www.devside.net/blog/linux-microsoft#comment-1524 "I’m all for discussion, but it becomes impossible when people ignore reason," People can't ignore facts. Stick to facts pls. “I’m all for discussion, but it becomes impossible when people ignore reason,”

People can’t ignore facts. Stick to facts pls.

]]> By: admin http://www.devside.net/blog/linux-microsoft#comment-1522 admin Tue, 03 Jul 2007 17:50:59 +0000 http://www.devside.net/blog/linux-microsoft#comment-1522 <em>Yes, there are still the other companies (which worked with Saddam in the 90s for example)</em> The US government put Saddam in power and helped him deploy chemical weapons against the Iranians and Turks in the 80s. Perhaps your misguidance stems from thinking that the nature of the government and corporations are good, and there are only a few bad apples. History will quickly disprove this. Yes, there are still the other companies (which worked with Saddam in the 90s for example)

The US government put Saddam in power and helped him deploy chemical weapons against the Iranians and Turks in the 80s.

Perhaps your misguidance stems from thinking that the nature of the government and corporations are good, and there are only a few bad apples. History will quickly disprove this.

]]> By: admin http://www.devside.net/blog/linux-microsoft#comment-1521 admin Tue, 03 Jul 2007 17:35:51 +0000 http://www.devside.net/blog/linux-microsoft#comment-1521 I'm all for discussion, but it becomes impossible when people ignore reason, skip right over any opposing arguments, and answer with unnecessary/trivial objections. I’m all for discussion, but it becomes impossible when people ignore reason, skip right over any opposing arguments, and answer with unnecessary/trivial objections.

]]> By: Notthistime http://www.devside.net/blog/linux-microsoft#comment-1520 Notthistime Tue, 03 Jul 2007 17:28:16 +0000 http://www.devside.net/blog/linux-microsoft#comment-1520 <em>We both know you just came here to make a speech. Not that there is anything wrong with that. I just wish people would slow down, not make grand assumptions, think a little more, and not be so damb critical.</em> Nope, new to me - I wanted to discuss facts, but unfortunately you tend to ignore most of the reasons I pointed out (like the choice argument or the question for a comparable monopoly like MS has it today). And about the US-corps-Nazi stuff: did all US corporations deal with Nazis? No! Of course there is corruption, of course there are bad people. But not all people are like that. There are many companies which have strict (and well working) anti corruption statements. Yes, there are still the other companies (which worked with Saddam in the 90s for example), but packing them all in one corner is just too far away from reality. Because: labeling them all with the same label is easy - and not thinking at all. And since you were talking about Nazis: even among the Nazis there were good people fighting the regime - even corporations. Schindler comes to mind... And stop making assumptions about my motivations as long as you have no idea. We both know you just came here to make a speech. Not that there is anything wrong with that. I just wish people would slow down, not make grand assumptions, think a little more, and not be so damb critical.
Nope, new to me - I wanted to discuss facts, but unfortunately you tend to ignore most of the reasons I pointed out (like the choice argument or the question for a comparable monopoly like MS has it today).

And about the US-corps-Nazi stuff: did all US corporations deal with Nazis? No!
Of course there is corruption, of course there are bad people. But not all people are like that. There are many companies which have strict (and well working) anti corruption statements. Yes, there are still the other companies (which worked with Saddam in the 90s for example), but packing them all in one corner is just too far away from reality. Because: labeling them all with the same label is easy - and not thinking at all.
And since you were talking about Nazis: even among the Nazis there were good people fighting the regime - even corporations. Schindler comes to mind…

And stop making assumptions about my motivations as long as you have no idea.

]]> By: peace maker http://www.devside.net/blog/linux-microsoft#comment-1507 peace maker Mon, 02 Jul 2007 18:42:06 +0000 http://www.devside.net/blog/linux-microsoft#comment-1507 "I can get Windows cheaper than that, even for free, and have no problems doing more with it as a Desktop." Stealing, and you will always be looking over your shoulder. Or you can use a free Linux and sleep good at night. Your life, your choice. Just remember, don't drop the soap! “I can get Windows cheaper than that, even for free, and have no problems doing more with it as a Desktop.”

Stealing, and you will always be looking over your shoulder. Or you can
use a free Linux and sleep good at night.

Your life, your choice.

Just remember, don’t drop the soap!

]]> By: none http://www.devside.net/blog/linux-microsoft#comment-1505 none Mon, 02 Jul 2007 14:47:10 +0000 http://www.devside.net/blog/linux-microsoft#comment-1505 "I was thinking just that about desktop Linux. I’ve got VMWare running CentOS under XP." Odd, I was thinking just that about the Windows environment. I’ve got KVM running XP. FOSS rules! “I was thinking just that about desktop Linux. I’ve got VMWare running CentOS under XP.”

Odd, I was thinking just that about the Windows environment. I’ve got KVM running XP.

FOSS rules!

]]> By: admin http://www.devside.net/blog/linux-microsoft#comment-1504 admin Mon, 02 Jul 2007 13:48:57 +0000 http://www.devside.net/blog/linux-microsoft#comment-1504 <em>Windows it self will become a niche application running in a virtual environment.</em> Odd, I was thinking just that about desktop Linux. I've got VMWare running CentOS under XP. Windows it self will become a niche application running in a virtual environment.

Odd, I was thinking just that about desktop Linux. I’ve got VMWare running CentOS under XP.

]]> By: none http://www.devside.net/blog/linux-microsoft#comment-1503 none Mon, 02 Jul 2007 12:54:19 +0000 http://www.devside.net/blog/linux-microsoft#comment-1503 "I’ve always said that for Linux to have a chance on the desktop it must be turned into Windows." I would say the Mac. Windows is fighting for relevancy! Windows it self will become a niche application running in a virtual environment. “I’ve always said that for Linux to have a chance on the desktop it must be turned into Windows.”

I would say the Mac.

Windows is fighting for relevancy!

Windows it self will become a niche application running in a virtual environment.

]]> By: admin http://www.devside.net/blog/linux-microsoft#comment-1494 admin Sun, 01 Jul 2007 16:32:59 +0000 http://www.devside.net/blog/linux-microsoft#comment-1494 <em>No, I will not. My problem here is that I tend to use scientific methods rather than conspiracy theories.</em> Perhaps you really should, as what I was referring to has nothing to do with theories or conspiracies... Just well documented history of American companies getting caught trading with the Nazis during WW2. Companies you know right now. And that's history for you in the form of congressional hearings and court proceedings. A lot of the companies and people involved were found guilty, and received a slap on the wrist. Let me make it easy for you: search "Trading with the Enemy Act." And that's how Capitalism works, anything for a buck. Whatever that involves, creating conflict, spreading fear, playing both sides, and so on. <em>For example there are quite some people at MS working towards open standards. And there are people working at Red Hat who would like to close down one or the other program to make it proprietary.</em> I don't doubt that. <em>I’m out of here.</em> We both know you just came here to make a speech. Not that there is anything wrong with that. I just wish people would slow down, not make grand assumptions, think a little more, and not be so damb critical. No, I will not. My problem here is that I tend to use scientific methods rather than conspiracy theories.

Perhaps you really should, as what I was referring to has nothing to do with theories or conspiracies… Just well documented history of American companies getting caught trading with the Nazis during WW2. Companies you know right now. And that’s history for you in the form of congressional hearings and court proceedings. A lot of the companies and people involved were found guilty, and received a slap on the wrist.

Let me make it easy for you: search “Trading with the Enemy Act.”

And that’s how Capitalism works, anything for a buck. Whatever that involves, creating conflict, spreading fear, playing both sides, and so on.

For example there are quite some people at MS working towards open standards. And there are people working at Red Hat who would like to close down one or the other program to make it proprietary.

I don’t doubt that.

I’m out of here.

We both know you just came here to make a speech. Not that there is anything wrong with that. I just wish people would slow down, not make grand assumptions, think a little more, and not be so damb critical.

]]> By: Notthistime http://www.devside.net/blog/linux-microsoft#comment-1491 Notthistime Sun, 01 Jul 2007 12:17:36 +0000 http://www.devside.net/blog/linux-microsoft#comment-1491 <em>You should use Google and type in any name of a large corporation that has been around for a while and “Nazi Germany”.</em> No, I will not. My problem here is that I tend to use scientific methods rather than conspiracy theories. I check the news and the reports and the lawsuits and compare them, and I don't listen to people whose reputation is more than questionable. The boring part (compared to conspiracy) here is that you can only claim things when you have facts - and that you also have to admit that there is nothing like "they are all evil and profit driven" but there are different forces in each company driving in different directions with different strengths. For example there are quite some people at MS working towards open standards. And there are people working at Red Hat who would like to close down one or the other program to make it proprietary. But in both cases they don't play a major role compared to the stronger forces and groups in the company. And no, I will not take on your Google argument because this argument was not about Google but about standards and working towards or away from them. And again you didn't have an argument at all against the SMB example. I'm out of here. You should use Google and type in any name of a large corporation that has been around for a while and “Nazi Germany”.
No, I will not. My problem here is that I tend to use scientific methods rather than conspiracy theories. I check the news and the reports and the lawsuits and compare them, and I don’t listen to people whose reputation is more than questionable. The boring part (compared to conspiracy) here is that you can only claim things when you have facts - and that you also have to admit that there is nothing like “they are all evil and profit driven” but there are different forces in each company driving in different directions with different strengths.
For example there are quite some people at MS working towards open standards. And there are people working at Red Hat who would like to close down one or the other program to make it proprietary.
But in both cases they don’t play a major role compared to the stronger forces and groups in the company.

And no, I will not take on your Google argument because this argument was not about Google but about standards and working towards or away from them. And again you didn’t have an argument at all against the SMB example.

I’m out of here.

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