Ubuntu and Dell, a Mismatch Made in a Place Called Hell [IdeaStorm].

I’m going to keep this one short and simple, and to the point.

And I’m not even going to write anything.

Why the Dell/Ubuntu Deal Won’t Improve Linux’s Market Share

When you take a few steps back from the furor and zealotry and take a close look at whats happened here, you will quickly start to see the cracks. One problem is that Dell appears to be under the misguided impression that listening to the IdeaStorm community is the same as listening to customers. It’s not. Anyone can register and become an instant member of the IdeaStorm community. What Dell listened to wasn’t a cross-section of customers, but rather a pressure group.

There are a series of other pressure groups in operation on IdeaStorm right now, people who are putting their own agendas on the table and expecting Dell to carry them out

A wise and sound analysis that iterates everything mentioned here on the topic.

22 thoughts on “Ubuntu and Dell, a Mismatch Made in a Place Called Hell [IdeaStorm].”

  1. If any reader here has not yet had the pleasure of encountering a Ubuntu fanatic, you probably need a few clarifications made:

    furor: a prevailing fad, mania, or craze.
    zealotry: excessive intolerance of opposing views.

  2. I’m not entirely sure what the problem is here. Ubuntu is free. Dell pays nothing extra to have it pre-installed, especially since most of the driver work has already been done for them. In return, they get free press within the Linux community for being Ubuntu-friendly and doing their part to support a standard for Linux.

    The only downside I can see is that Microsoft tends to punish vendors for doing things like this, but given the court judgments against Microsoft in the past, Dell probably figures they can call that bluff and get away with it.

    So, on the whole, it’s win-win. It may not have the positive impact the Linux community hopes for, but Dell’s primary concern is to push hardware. I think this initiative accomplishes that goal very neatly.

  3. but given the court judgments against Microsoft in the past, Dell probably figures they can call that bluff and get away with it.

    From what I have heard, the anti-trust laws are a joke these days, Big business wins hands down. Especially in the US and with the current administration.

    It’s a bit tougher in the EU, but Microsoft is content to paying 100s of millions each year in fines to make billions in return.

    It’s kind of like companies dumping toxic waste into the ocean, that would normally cost millions to dispose of properly, for only a $25,000 fine. It’s a steal!

    So, on the whole, it’s win-win. It may not have the positive impact the Linux community hopes for, but Dell’s primary concern is to push hardware. I think this initiative accomplishes that goal very neatly.

    One of the points was that Dell has backed them selfs into a corner with the IdeaStorm initiative. Now they have to implement what the pressure wave demands, or face looking like they don’t care about the customer.

    Pressure waves, such as the above, tend to be extremely selfish, conceded, and demanding, all while providing no returns. Make them think you’re not playing into their demands, and they scream, loudly.

    Eventually, due to the underlining nature, things like this come crashing down.

  4. What the heck?? How is any company suppose to decide customer-based practice without ‘pressure groups,’ of which the sizes and flavors can vary.

    Duh. What new pressure groups would their be for Dell, except non-Windows ones. Windows is already fully supported and provided on their systems.

    I don’t think this will be bad for Dell. Nothing is changing about their Windows-based lineup.

    This is an obvious call, as it shows that Dell is focused on the customer. Which is good whichever way you view it from.

    Now, if Windows does punish them as a result, that would be bad, and illegal.

  5. Mr. Admin is a pessimist. Don’t worry, though Mr. Admin, Dell and Ubuntu will be able to make adept decisions without you or your microsoft money guiding the way. Seriously, do you expect us to take you seriously with all the negativity you are spouting? Really?

    I mean, how about some constructive criticism? You aren’t offering any. Period 😀

  6. For many Ubuntu users, Canonical’s efforts are bearing fruit. Jean-Yves Quentel, a former venture capitalist, blogger and Ubuntu user in France, said Canonical now acts more like a “real business” with each passing release.

  7. @admin
    Here is some info; maybe you should give Gerry Carr a call and have him send you a copy of Canonical’s business plan, if you are interested.

    Gerry Carr, marketing manager for Canonical, which is the corporate maintainer of Ubuntu, said that while no deal was imminent, Canonical was exploring deals with Dell Inc. and other unnamed hardware manufacturers to bring Ubuntu pre-installed on x86 commodity servers in the near future.

  8. No, I think I will rather listen to the recent audio interview with Mark Shuttleworth that goes something along the lines of…

    “Interviewer: And the question is… What is Canonical’s business plan?”

    “Suttleworth: Business plan? What business plan? There is none, and there never was. We go wherever the wind blows us.”

  9. Lifehacker: Do you ever travel to the United States?
    Mark Shuttleworth: Yes, I was in the States just six weeks ago. I spent two lovely weeks in Oregon. One week in Eugene for a company strategy meeting where we brought all of our guys together from around the world to talk our position through and see where we want to go. I spent the other week in Portland for Ubuntu Live and OSCON.

  10. “Hewlett-Packard, one of the world’s largest PC manufacturers, has announced it will start selling Linux-based PCs aimed at the consumer market … in Australia”. […]

  11. “Dell is not in the the business of doing niches,” said Chavis, the director of global alliances. “We are in the business of making money.”

    Windows isn’t going away, she says, but Linux has its place.

    “I believe Linux on the desktop has come of age,” she said.

  12. Yeah, I have to say the level of animosity you have towards Ubuntu is just a little odd. I mean, why are you so worked up about it?

    I got tired of using Windows and wanted to try something else, just out of curiosity, really. So I bought a Dell because they at least had some relationship with a major Linux distro. I thought that would mean better compatibility. HA!

    I got a Dell 1420 with Vista on it, got more machine for the money than the Ubuntu model. It’s taken me about a month to get Ubuntu running the way I want it to and in the meantime I’ve dual booted with Vista basic as my primary OS. It’s fine.

    But I’m pretty much ready to reformat the HD and get rid of Vista because I really do have better options in terms of customization, software choices, etc…and I’m learning a lot more about computing. Really my mind has been challenged and I think it is very important for people to know a bit about the technologies they use on an everyday basis.

    Linux in general, and Ubuntu in particular are encouraging “users” to take more ownership in their computing experience. I think that is good and makes for stronger, better, free-er people. Really.

  13. I agree that desktop Linux has come of age and primarily via Ubuntu. The bitter taste Mr. Admin has is probably because such a young distro has made up so much ground that other Linux distro users wanted for years.

    Otherwise, be happy for the progress made.

  14. How does it feel to have been proved completely clueless? As sales over the last year have shown, you really don’t know what you’re talking about.

  15. What sales are you referring to? Windows Vista sales? 140 million copies pushed out. Microsoft Corp profits are as strong as ever.

    Or are you referring to the Dell N sales? If so, they are non existent… Every source quoted now a year after the fact has done everything not to mention any figures, and quickly turn the discussion to some ‘it’s the effort that matters’ point.

    And if anything — I have been proven right. Ubuntu has not been able to make a dent in anything but Canonical’s budget.

  16. You are right.

    OS is just a piece of software or a tool. Why make such a big deal out of it ?
    I don’t get why people hate MSFT so much. It is just a very successful business.

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