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	<description>Linux, Windows, MacOS? Who cares. Just give me something that works!</description>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://www.devside.net/blog/ubuntu-dying-2#comment-4506</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 03:11:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>xubean, everything I've said is right on spot.

#1. You are bashing MS products without providing any facts or reasons, you do not even identify the products and issues involved. Unstable, unreliable, overpriced products? Right. Windows has worked for me flawlessly since Win2k. Let Linux and Linux applications get 1 billion users and see what kind of a mess it will all be.

#2. Google is a business. A "for profit" business. They have stockholders. Do you understand? They are no different from Microsoft. Know what they do? How they make money? They sell AD space. How noble of them.

#3. I provide you with an example with facts and you say 'must be a fanboy.' Goes right to the fanaticism point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>xubean, everything I&#8217;ve said is right on spot.</p>
<p>#1. You are bashing MS products without providing any facts or reasons, you do not even identify the products and issues involved. Unstable, unreliable, overpriced products? Right. Windows has worked for me flawlessly since Win2k. Let Linux and Linux applications get 1 billion users and see what kind of a mess it will all be.</p>
<p>#2. Google is a business. A &#8220;for profit&#8221; business. They have stockholders. Do you understand? They are no different from Microsoft. Know what they do? How they make money? They sell AD space. How noble of them.</p>
<p>#3. I provide you with an example with facts and you say &#8216;must be a fanboy.&#8217; Goes right to the fanaticism point.</p>
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		<title>By: xubean</title>
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		<dc:creator>xubean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 01:15:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I had my doubts before, but now I know for sure you're a MS fanboy! I was trying to be real and not talk like a Linux fanboy (which I'm not), but you're saying really unrealistic things now.

'The constant insults thrown towards Microsoft and their products by people that have never even used the products they are bashing'
That's what a Linux fanboy is supposed to say... coz there's waaaaaaaay more chance that someone has used a Windows software compared to a Linux product. They used the Microsoft product and did not like it, and now they have seen that there are better options out there. 
'This notion of good vs evil. Google good. Microsoft evil. Why? Just because!'
No, not just because! Because of Microsoft's monopolistic nature, overpriced products and unstable and unreliable products that we are forced to buy. I don't have to fill you up on the whole Vista vs. XP thing. Even the Windows user don't want Vista, but Microsoft keeps trying to throw it at them...! 
'The number #3 point is a good one. The example is Firefox. It has become a bloated, unusable, unsecured POS of a browser. IE 7 is an improvement over IE6 and Firefox in every way imaginable. '
Are you effin kidding me.. I mean, I agree IE7 is an improvement over IE6, but seriously? Firefox? I haven't heard that from even a person who used to work with Microsoft (Student Partner), Firefox must have been bloated than before, but IE7 better than Firefox???? You really are a fanboy... 
I could type a lot more things, but I know there's no convincing you... Until you realize this on your own... there's no point in trying to convince you... all i gotta say is get your facts straight...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I had my doubts before, but now I know for sure you&#8217;re a MS fanboy! I was trying to be real and not talk like a Linux fanboy (which I&#8217;m not), but you&#8217;re saying really unrealistic things now.</p>
<p>&#8216;The constant insults thrown towards Microsoft and their products by people that have never even used the products they are bashing&#8217;<br />
That&#8217;s what a Linux fanboy is supposed to say&#8230; coz there&#8217;s waaaaaaaay more chance that someone has used a Windows software compared to a Linux product. They used the Microsoft product and did not like it, and now they have seen that there are better options out there.<br />
&#8216;This notion of good vs evil. Google good. Microsoft evil. Why? Just because!&#8217;<br />
No, not just because! Because of Microsoft&#8217;s monopolistic nature, overpriced products and unstable and unreliable products that we are forced to buy. I don&#8217;t have to fill you up on the whole Vista vs. XP thing. Even the Windows user don&#8217;t want Vista, but Microsoft keeps trying to throw it at them&#8230;!<br />
&#8216;The number #3 point is a good one. The example is Firefox. It has become a bloated, unusable, unsecured POS of a browser. IE 7 is an improvement over IE6 and Firefox in every way imaginable. &#8216;<br />
Are you effin kidding me.. I mean, I agree IE7 is an improvement over IE6, but seriously? Firefox? I haven&#8217;t heard that from even a person who used to work with Microsoft (Student Partner), Firefox must have been bloated than before, but IE7 better than Firefox???? You really are a fanboy&#8230;<br />
I could type a lot more things, but I know there&#8217;s no convincing you&#8230; Until you realize this on your own&#8230; there&#8217;s no point in trying to convince you&#8230; all i gotta say is get your facts straight&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://www.devside.net/blog/ubuntu-dying-2#comment-4504</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 17:10:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm still around, in the shadows looking out.

I've been working on a few ventures of mine that have unfortunately  prevented myself from having the time to dedicate to this blog and my everlasting pursuit for the truth.

On that note, my views have not changed radically since I made this blog post a year ago.

I believe that Linux and Windows cater to two different types of people and businesses. There is some overlap, and there are plenty of examples of this, but overall they are different beasts. In architecture, function, and usability.

The aspect I dislike most about Linux is the blind fanaticism involved [and what it creates]...

1. The constant insults thrown towards Microsoft and their products by people that have never even used the products they are bashing. People that have no clue about the verbal and cerebral diarrhea they are regurgitating.

2. This notion of good vs evil. Google good. Microsoft evil. Why? Just because!

3. The lies, dam lies, and more lies that are now standard procedure for marketing your product in comparison to an MS product.

The number #3 point is a good one. The example is Firefox. It has become a bloated, unusable, unsecured POS of a browser.

IE 7 is an improvement over IE6 and Firefox in every way imaginable. So what does the Firefox team do [or who ever it was on the dev team]? They come out with pure BS benchmarks not just once, but twice in a row, to show how much worse IE is. The problem was these benchmark were not just done bad. They were soo far off, and so much information was not provided, that there is no way they were not rigged. Rigged from the start and covered up with open-source fanaticism and saran wrap. It was sick to see this. What was it? Something like 'lets open up 30 tabs in Firefox under one instance, and compare that to 30 IE instances/windows, and lets only compare the 1st half second on RAM usage, and lets open the 30 IE Windows as fast as we can so we can say the system crashed.'... or something along those lines.

Linux is it's worst enemy in this regard. It will tarnish itself in the process.

My outlook on Linux is gloom at best. I don't want much to do with it except on the server-side where you actually deal with businesses, and not inexperienced fanboys and Ubuntu.

In the mean time I'll use the OS I'm most productive in, Windows.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m still around, in the shadows looking out.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been working on a few ventures of mine that have unfortunately  prevented myself from having the time to dedicate to this blog and my everlasting pursuit for the truth.</p>
<p>On that note, my views have not changed radically since I made this blog post a year ago.</p>
<p>I believe that Linux and Windows cater to two different types of people and businesses. There is some overlap, and there are plenty of examples of this, but overall they are different beasts. In architecture, function, and usability.</p>
<p>The aspect I dislike most about Linux is the blind fanaticism involved [and what it creates]&#8230;</p>
<p>1. The constant insults thrown towards Microsoft and their products by people that have never even used the products they are bashing. People that have no clue about the verbal and cerebral diarrhea they are regurgitating.</p>
<p>2. This notion of good vs evil. Google good. Microsoft evil. Why? Just because!</p>
<p>3. The lies, dam lies, and more lies that are now standard procedure for marketing your product in comparison to an MS product.</p>
<p>The number #3 point is a good one. The example is Firefox. It has become a bloated, unusable, unsecured POS of a browser.</p>
<p>IE 7 is an improvement over IE6 and Firefox in every way imaginable. So what does the Firefox team do [or who ever it was on the dev team]? They come out with pure BS benchmarks not just once, but twice in a row, to show how much worse IE is. The problem was these benchmark were not just done bad. They were soo far off, and so much information was not provided, that there is no way they were not rigged. Rigged from the start and covered up with open-source fanaticism and saran wrap. It was sick to see this. What was it? Something like &#8216;lets open up 30 tabs in Firefox under one instance, and compare that to 30 IE instances/windows, and lets only compare the 1st half second on RAM usage, and lets open the 30 IE Windows as fast as we can so we can say the system crashed.&#8217;&#8230; or something along those lines.</p>
<p>Linux is it&#8217;s worst enemy in this regard. It will tarnish itself in the process.</p>
<p>My outlook on Linux is gloom at best. I don&#8217;t want much to do with it except on the server-side where you actually deal with businesses, and not inexperienced fanboys and Ubuntu.</p>
<p>In the mean time I&#8217;ll use the OS I&#8217;m most productive in, Windows.</p>
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		<title>By: xubean</title>
		<link>http://www.devside.net/blog/ubuntu-dying-2#comment-4503</link>
		<dc:creator>xubean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 15:49:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You wrote this article just about a month ago now... and I was reading through the comments, and how badly people battered you, insulted you and said all these bad things. I'm not that kind of guy... I've commented before (nicely) and you replied back (nicely was well). However, now that Ubuntu 8.04 LTS (hardy heron) is out, and there's more talk about ubuntu, linux everywhere, and more more and computer companies are embracing linux, esp. after EEEPC, I wanted to know where you stand today. Also one more thing... you mentioned ubuntu dying and PCLinuxOS has taken number one on Distrowatch, well, again i cannot predict the future and say you're wrong, however, it doesn't look like ubuntu has died just yet, and the deal with Dell is still on. Just wanted to see what your thoughts are now. and finally though this doesn't prove anything, it's interesting to see the rise of ubuntu:
all years:
http://www.google.com/trends?q=ubuntu%2C+windows+xp%2C+windows+vista%2C+redhat%2C+suse&#38;ctab=0&#38;geo=all&#38;date=all&#38;sort=0
last 12 months
http://www.google.com/trends?q=ubuntu%2C+windows+xp%2C+windows+vista%2C+redhat%2C+suse&#38;ctab=0&#38;geo=all&#38;date=ytd&#38;sort=0</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You wrote this article just about a month ago now&#8230; and I was reading through the comments, and how badly people battered you, insulted you and said all these bad things. I&#8217;m not that kind of guy&#8230; I&#8217;ve commented before (nicely) and you replied back (nicely was well). However, now that Ubuntu 8.04 LTS (hardy heron) is out, and there&#8217;s more talk about ubuntu, linux everywhere, and more more and computer companies are embracing linux, esp. after EEEPC, I wanted to know where you stand today. Also one more thing&#8230; you mentioned ubuntu dying and PCLinuxOS has taken number one on Distrowatch, well, again i cannot predict the future and say you&#8217;re wrong, however, it doesn&#8217;t look like ubuntu has died just yet, and the deal with Dell is still on. Just wanted to see what your thoughts are now. and finally though this doesn&#8217;t prove anything, it&#8217;s interesting to see the rise of ubuntu:<br />
all years:<br />
<a href="http://www.google.com/trends?q=ubuntu%2C+windows+xp%2C+windows+vista%2C+redhat%2C+suse&amp;ctab=0&amp;geo=all&amp;date=all&amp;sort=0" rel="nofollow">http://www.google.com/trends?q=ubuntu%2C+windows+xp%2C+windows+vista%2C+redhat%2C+suse&amp;ctab=0&amp;geo=all&amp;date=all&amp;sort=0</a><br />
last 12 months<br />
<a href="http://www.google.com/trends?q=ubuntu%2C+windows+xp%2C+windows+vista%2C+redhat%2C+suse&amp;ctab=0&amp;geo=all&amp;date=ytd&amp;sort=0" rel="nofollow">http://www.google.com/trends?q=ubuntu%2C+windows+xp%2C+windows+vista%2C+redhat%2C+suse&amp;ctab=0&amp;geo=all&amp;date=ytd&amp;sort=0</a></p>
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		<title>By: fooishbar</title>
		<link>http://www.devside.net/blog/ubuntu-dying-2#comment-2763</link>
		<dc:creator>fooishbar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 05:37:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>admin == M$ toy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>admin == M$ toy</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://www.devside.net/blog/ubuntu-dying-2#comment-2762</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 05:36:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Linux is gaining market share every day... with newer users, doesn't matter if is Slackware, Gentoo or Ubuntu, Linux is everywhere these days... and I wouldn't call Linux a failure, ever.

I would call Vista a failure and M$ fucking SUCKS.

Linux forever and ever!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Linux is gaining market share every day&#8230; with newer users, doesn&#8217;t matter if is Slackware, Gentoo or Ubuntu, Linux is everywhere these days&#8230; and I wouldn&#8217;t call Linux a failure, ever.</p>
<p>I would call Vista a failure and M$ fucking SUCKS.</p>
<p>Linux forever and ever!</p>
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		<title>By: asdx</title>
		<link>http://www.devside.net/blog/ubuntu-dying-2#comment-2761</link>
		<dc:creator>asdx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 05:33:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fuck this guy and his stupid FUD.

Linux rules, M$ sucks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fuck this guy and his stupid FUD.</p>
<p>Linux rules, M$ sucks!</p>
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		<title>By: Billu</title>
		<link>http://www.devside.net/blog/ubuntu-dying-2#comment-1981</link>
		<dc:creator>Billu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 23:51:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's a little hard to tell who the initial post ("Ubuntu's Death Rattle", May 24, 07) is from, so this post is for whomever that is. 

As a Linux Noobe, let me add my $0.02.  

I've been playing around with Linux now for about a year.  My ultimate goal is to eliminate MICRO$OFT from my life, completely.  That's all.  I have played with a variety of Linux distributions, actually quite a variety, and UBUNTU is the one I keep gravitating back to.  I have even asked my self why?  The answer is not that Ubuntu is the "best" distro, or that I have learned enough about Linux to make a technical decision, the answer is very basic.

I don't yet know enough about Linux to fully understand why I keep returning to Ubuntu, but I can tell you this - Ubuntu has a "flavor" about it that, IMHO, makes it the most likely candidate to fill the need as a complete substitute for Windo$e.  It nearly flawlessly installs - right up there in "ease" with Windo$e itself, and all the applications needed for "general" use are readily available if not already installed at the completion of the install.  Of course, I am sure I am not saying anything new to Linux aficionados, but remember, I am a noobe, and I'm learning a lot of "new" things about Linux as I experiment with each distro.  I now have Ubunutu installed on a desktop and a laptop at home and I am very happy with it's operation and with its available aps.  When WinXP is no longer supported, I intend to have ALL my home machines running Linux, and right now, I think that will be Ubuntu.  

I don't know how Mr. Shuttlesworth plans on making money with Ubuntu, or how long he intends to support it, but if others like me are out there experimenting, I know enough about this to say that others, many others, must be finding the same thing I am - that Ubuntu "just works" and that is very important in the mass-market OS world, again, IMHO.  Clearly if I have to, I will move to another distro.  That is not the issue to me.  The issue for me is this: I don't want to give Bill Gates another dime for an OS.  Period.  I'm tired of paying him again and again as he "improves" his OS.  I will not be upgrading any system I own to "Vista" or any other future Micro$oft OS.  

In conclusion, I see Ubuntu as very strong in the Linux OS "market" and I have a very favorable impression of it.  Rather than seeing the Dell/Ubuntu deal as a "joke" I see it as a major coup.  What other Linux distro will see distribution like Ubuntu will see with Linux?  Sun won't, Fedora won't, PC Linux won't.  Not even Red Hat will see the in-place share Ubuntu will.  Have you taken a look at the used PC/Laptop market?  Guess which brand the used market consists most of?  It's Dell.  Guess what Linux distro will be be the "biggest" in that market in the not-too-distant future?  It will be Ubuntu.

Well, I've rambled enough here.  I'm not sure I made any significant contribution to this topic, but I felt compelled to add my thoughts.

Billu</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a little hard to tell who the initial post (&#8221;Ubuntu&#8217;s Death Rattle&#8221;, May 24, 07) is from, so this post is for whomever that is. </p>
<p>As a Linux Noobe, let me add my $0.02.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been playing around with Linux now for about a year.  My ultimate goal is to eliminate MICRO$OFT from my life, completely.  That&#8217;s all.  I have played with a variety of Linux distributions, actually quite a variety, and UBUNTU is the one I keep gravitating back to.  I have even asked my self why?  The answer is not that Ubuntu is the &#8220;best&#8221; distro, or that I have learned enough about Linux to make a technical decision, the answer is very basic.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t yet know enough about Linux to fully understand why I keep returning to Ubuntu, but I can tell you this - Ubuntu has a &#8220;flavor&#8221; about it that, IMHO, makes it the most likely candidate to fill the need as a complete substitute for Windo$e.  It nearly flawlessly installs - right up there in &#8220;ease&#8221; with Windo$e itself, and all the applications needed for &#8220;general&#8221; use are readily available if not already installed at the completion of the install.  Of course, I am sure I am not saying anything new to Linux aficionados, but remember, I am a noobe, and I&#8217;m learning a lot of &#8220;new&#8221; things about Linux as I experiment with each distro.  I now have Ubunutu installed on a desktop and a laptop at home and I am very happy with it&#8217;s operation and with its available aps.  When WinXP is no longer supported, I intend to have ALL my home machines running Linux, and right now, I think that will be Ubuntu.  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know how Mr. Shuttlesworth plans on making money with Ubuntu, or how long he intends to support it, but if others like me are out there experimenting, I know enough about this to say that others, many others, must be finding the same thing I am - that Ubuntu &#8220;just works&#8221; and that is very important in the mass-market OS world, again, IMHO.  Clearly if I have to, I will move to another distro.  That is not the issue to me.  The issue for me is this: I don&#8217;t want to give Bill Gates another dime for an OS.  Period.  I&#8217;m tired of paying him again and again as he &#8220;improves&#8221; his OS.  I will not be upgrading any system I own to &#8220;Vista&#8221; or any other future Micro$oft OS.  </p>
<p>In conclusion, I see Ubuntu as very strong in the Linux OS &#8220;market&#8221; and I have a very favorable impression of it.  Rather than seeing the Dell/Ubuntu deal as a &#8220;joke&#8221; I see it as a major coup.  What other Linux distro will see distribution like Ubuntu will see with Linux?  Sun won&#8217;t, Fedora won&#8217;t, PC Linux won&#8217;t.  Not even Red Hat will see the in-place share Ubuntu will.  Have you taken a look at the used PC/Laptop market?  Guess which brand the used market consists most of?  It&#8217;s Dell.  Guess what Linux distro will be be the &#8220;biggest&#8221; in that market in the not-too-distant future?  It will be Ubuntu.</p>
<p>Well, I&#8217;ve rambled enough here.  I&#8217;m not sure I made any significant contribution to this topic, but I felt compelled to add my thoughts.</p>
<p>Billu</p>
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		<title>By: Artur</title>
		<link>http://www.devside.net/blog/ubuntu-dying-2#comment-1742</link>
		<dc:creator>Artur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2007 14:45:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This post made me laugh several times. I don't think you are correct Admin. Although in this world anything can happen, your analysis is rather weak. Ubuntu is moving fast from being little known distribution to a very well known one. There is no reason for it to collapse now(or rather for Mark to cut the funding, except for his personal reasons meaning that he has some problems with his life). Your analysis applies more to the opposite case of a product having a large portion of the market once and then losing it. I think there is a big possibility for Windows to end up down that road, so maybe all you'll have to do is to change Ubuntu to Windows in your title and repost your blog in couple of years(or maybe sooner).

Speaking of Windows, if it was a decent product I'd never switch. Why would one. Think about it. Indeed switching and learning something new is a pain in the ass, and if you are happy with what you have, why do it? Well, guess what? Windows is far from being a well written OS. Microsoft's spirituality is rather sick. All they care about is $ and trust me, there are a lot of ppl denying them in $ now. I am not a crazy fanatic, and I use windows when I have to or when there is no point to switch(like right now I am at work, co-op term, will be done in a month here anyways). But what a sh..ty OS it is. I can't believe M$ spend so much money and many years to create a piece of sh..t.
Just look at the amount of viruses written for it. In my opinion viruses are indication of flaws in OS. Flawless OS should have no viruses. And if OS has a flaw, the flaw should be fixed, not another third party program costing money should be run on top of it. Do you run anti virus on your windows machine, Admin? Don't you think you got cheated? Don't you think M$ should fix the holes in its product instead of letting a third party rip you off your money. Look at linux. Those guys do it right. The only need for antivirus on linux is so other windows machines don't get infected through linux boxes(most viruses can't do much harm on linux, but they might get spread though through it). I got really sick of dealing with Windows, running antivirus, dealing with malware, slowdowns, etc, etc. Ubuntu is such a break from all that nonsense.

Oh yeah, and what's up with an average Joe? You know, Windows succeeded because they wrote an OS for an average Joe in the first place. That was a great idea and I am thankful for that. 10-15 years ago that was really good. But yeah, 10-15 years ago!!! Today's society is way ahead of an average Joe 15 years ago. An OS for fools is not so popular anymore. That's where windows is failing big time. They still treat us as stupid Joes knowing nothing about computers, OSes, etc. 

Well, there are numerous examples of how Windows is not keeping ppl happy. Vista is another failure. You should prey that Ubuntu or Linux in general succeed otherwise you'll get stuck forever with this M$ BS. You'll get stuck, not me. 

Back to Ubuntu. I had to dual boot for about a year before. But for a last year or so I strictly boot into Ubuntu. Yes, it became so usable and really the first reason I had to dual boot was software(games) support. But that's the problem with program developers, not the OS. Now I can watch movies, play games, write documents, well, pretty much anything I need. Things are not always smooth and if I need something extra, sometimes I need to work for it. But I don't think "average Joe" will need many extra things. If he does, he is probably not an average Joe. Did I mention that I don't have any anti viruses. Did I mention that the OS is stable as a brick. Did I mention that I get system updates every day or 2.Well, enough said here. Oh, and I can get many software for free with add/remove or synaptic package manager. Not bad, eh, considering that M$ Office and other programs cost quite a bit.

By the way, there are many companies in Canada that use or develop products on/for Linux and other open source programs. Even here where I work now and use Windows on my desktop, we use OpenOffice and open source wincvs. Some people here use linux, and I would too, if I stayed here for long.

By the way, I did donate to Ubuntu 20$. Another source of money for Ubuntu.

So, I suggest for you not to worry about Ubuntu. It is indeed doing pretty well so far. Better worry about Windows and how you'll have to switch soon away from it. I know you are not gonna like it, but if things go that way, you should prepare yourself to be part of Linux user base. Unless you like dealing with all the BS windows is putting you through.......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This post made me laugh several times. I don&#8217;t think you are correct Admin. Although in this world anything can happen, your analysis is rather weak. Ubuntu is moving fast from being little known distribution to a very well known one. There is no reason for it to collapse now(or rather for Mark to cut the funding, except for his personal reasons meaning that he has some problems with his life). Your analysis applies more to the opposite case of a product having a large portion of the market once and then losing it. I think there is a big possibility for Windows to end up down that road, so maybe all you&#8217;ll have to do is to change Ubuntu to Windows in your title and repost your blog in couple of years(or maybe sooner).</p>
<p>Speaking of Windows, if it was a decent product I&#8217;d never switch. Why would one. Think about it. Indeed switching and learning something new is a pain in the ass, and if you are happy with what you have, why do it? Well, guess what? Windows is far from being a well written OS. Microsoft&#8217;s spirituality is rather sick. All they care about is $ and trust me, there are a lot of ppl denying them in $ now. I am not a crazy fanatic, and I use windows when I have to or when there is no point to switch(like right now I am at work, co-op term, will be done in a month here anyways). But what a sh..ty OS it is. I can&#8217;t believe M$ spend so much money and many years to create a piece of sh..t.<br />
Just look at the amount of viruses written for it. In my opinion viruses are indication of flaws in OS. Flawless OS should have no viruses. And if OS has a flaw, the flaw should be fixed, not another third party program costing money should be run on top of it. Do you run anti virus on your windows machine, Admin? Don&#8217;t you think you got cheated? Don&#8217;t you think M$ should fix the holes in its product instead of letting a third party rip you off your money. Look at linux. Those guys do it right. The only need for antivirus on linux is so other windows machines don&#8217;t get infected through linux boxes(most viruses can&#8217;t do much harm on linux, but they might get spread though through it). I got really sick of dealing with Windows, running antivirus, dealing with malware, slowdowns, etc, etc. Ubuntu is such a break from all that nonsense.</p>
<p>Oh yeah, and what&#8217;s up with an average Joe? You know, Windows succeeded because they wrote an OS for an average Joe in the first place. That was a great idea and I am thankful for that. 10-15 years ago that was really good. But yeah, 10-15 years ago!!! Today&#8217;s society is way ahead of an average Joe 15 years ago. An OS for fools is not so popular anymore. That&#8217;s where windows is failing big time. They still treat us as stupid Joes knowing nothing about computers, OSes, etc. </p>
<p>Well, there are numerous examples of how Windows is not keeping ppl happy. Vista is another failure. You should prey that Ubuntu or Linux in general succeed otherwise you&#8217;ll get stuck forever with this M$ BS. You&#8217;ll get stuck, not me. </p>
<p>Back to Ubuntu. I had to dual boot for about a year before. But for a last year or so I strictly boot into Ubuntu. Yes, it became so usable and really the first reason I had to dual boot was software(games) support. But that&#8217;s the problem with program developers, not the OS. Now I can watch movies, play games, write documents, well, pretty much anything I need. Things are not always smooth and if I need something extra, sometimes I need to work for it. But I don&#8217;t think &#8220;average Joe&#8221; will need many extra things. If he does, he is probably not an average Joe. Did I mention that I don&#8217;t have any anti viruses. Did I mention that the OS is stable as a brick. Did I mention that I get system updates every day or 2.Well, enough said here. Oh, and I can get many software for free with add/remove or synaptic package manager. Not bad, eh, considering that M$ Office and other programs cost quite a bit.</p>
<p>By the way, there are many companies in Canada that use or develop products on/for Linux and other open source programs. Even here where I work now and use Windows on my desktop, we use OpenOffice and open source wincvs. Some people here use linux, and I would too, if I stayed here for long.</p>
<p>By the way, I did donate to Ubuntu 20$. Another source of money for Ubuntu.</p>
<p>So, I suggest for you not to worry about Ubuntu. It is indeed doing pretty well so far. Better worry about Windows and how you&#8217;ll have to switch soon away from it. I know you are not gonna like it, but if things go that way, you should prepare yourself to be part of Linux user base. Unless you like dealing with all the BS windows is putting you through&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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